Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023Liked by Mark Bisone
I think that being lashed to the masts of God and freedom helped people pass through the Covid Straits safely.
Also, living someplace with more physical space; the groupthink was less "tight," for lack of a better word. Being in the Bay Area may have been harmful to Scott Adams, for example. I am guessing that the most densely populated parts of the Soviet Union had the most tattlers and spies, for the same reason. What happened in rural Bavaria was probably closer to normal than what happened in Berlin.
So, I'm not in the 25% but, rather, in the mediocre middle of those who went partway down this particular road of perdition but then wised up. Such is life.
What I wonder is whether all you 25%ers on here feel safe from all potential threats of suggestibility, or do you worry about what will slip past your defences in the future? If you don't worry.....should you?
I wonder if I'm now aware enough to avoid my gullibility in the future, or perhaps have the fortitude to resist my fear?
Mark, you're sort of an End Times curious kind of guy (if I've understood some of your other essays)...what about when the Man of Lawlessness shows up?
This is what COVID did for me, it woke me up to my desperately precarious spiritual state. I repented! But it sure was humbling to see just where I stand within the herd.
In order to prevent mass hypnosis/psychosis, IMO it will require arresting and interrogating those responsible for it, removing the means to do so, trying them, & sentencing them.
Then it will entail a top-to-bottom review, dismantlement, and restructuring of every institution that requires subservience and obedience, and then creating institutions that inform, instruct, and educate the populace about such techniques and how to guard against them, at the same time emphasizing critical thinking, logic, identification of fallacies, etc.
However, this will have to wait until the whole sheebang goes tits up in a fiery deep impact explosion.
🗨 [The majority of folks] do hear your data and proofs. But in order to accept those as truth they must also accept that their docs are liars and their governments are monsters, which means their parents and teachers were wrong, and that science can't be trusted anymore, including those proofs and truths and that this has been going on for a long time.
An elephantine takeaway ↓↓
🗨 So, be kind. Be very grateful that you can see more truth than most.[...] And if you can handle that, be grateful for that as well. And patient and nonjudgemental for those who can't. You, and others like you, are an anomaly in the overall human condition.
Some years back, when contemplating an alternative career, I became interested in various conceptions of personality, and came across Ernest Hartmann's Boundaries in the Mind. He posits that people with "thin" psychological boundaries are more susceptible to vivid imagination, remembering dreams, hypnosis and other mysterious channels of psychic influence. This may correlate to the "openness" aspect of the so-called Big Five personality traits. I scored exceptionally high on both tests and thus thought I would be a good candidate for hypnosis. However, when I tried it - with a genuine belief that it would be effective, the experience fell flat. This post got me thinking of another personality test I took (and validated with others) that might shed some light on the apparent paradox.
Gretchen Rubin (of Happiness Project fame) developed a different framework, which she calls the Four Tendencies. These reflect people's willingness to hold themselves to expectations - both of themselves, and those of others. Obligers, for example, are willing to meet others' expectations, but have a hard time holding themselves accountable to their own goals. Rebels, by contrast, resist the expectations of others and themselves. I scored high in the Rebel category, which represents a small contingent of Americans (I think she said 19% but speculated that was probably overstating things). Rebels' differentiated thinking can lead them to become iconoclasts & entrepreneurs OR outcasts who can barely function in modern society.
Here's where I'm going with this: I think it takes a streak of rebellion to go against the layer cake of propaganda and resulting social conformity...but one must ALSO be able to come up with a plausible alternative hypothesis to anchor one's thinking. Taking a giant leap out of "the world as we knew it" into an alternative framework that better explains reality requires both bravery and imagination.
That leap grows bigger the longer you wait - kind of like a boat leaving the dock. The more ridiculous the mandates, the more the cognitive dissonance grows, and the harder it is to explain "public health" policies in terms of what one knew to be true. Most people double down on "trusting the science" in order to avoid going crazy (or be judged by others as crazy). Not have prepared oneself psychologically through an incremental change in perception makes such a leap excruciating when it does come. The only way to do it is hold hands with others and hope not to drown in the process.
In other words, those who smelled a rat early on - and were possessed of an openness to alternative theories of reality - had an easier time understanding and processing the changes, which cushioned the blow of becoming social outcasts.
Interesting analogy. Hmmmm. Well I have a parent who is a Doctor and who also practiced hypnotism actually. My children are not vaccinated for anything and he has had lots of ‘talks’ with me about this. When Covid hit and the fear amped it was clear I would not get vaccinated. But this is because I have a significant chronic condition and taking a bioweapon (what I thought to be a vaccine) could down turn my little capacity. My specialist said what if you got long Covid on top of your condition which was a horrid thought but for whatever reason I wasn’t budging. My Doctor parent rang and condescended (while trying not to) my decision and amped fear to the degree I rang my adult daughter and tried to enforce it for her. She, like me, wasn’t having it and told me to stick it. What I like about the theory is it makes the decision making process less personal. And it still strikes me as bizarre that so many people cannot see beyond the psy op narrative. My experience is that 65 percent are still hypnotised over here.
You got me on “pandemic enthusiast”. Then "simultaneously hilarious and terrifying." I am one of the 25%. It never caught me and never will. I would say PR companies, such as Hill + Knowlton, and advertizers are master hypnotists and consulted/hired for maximum effect pre- and during the plandemic.
Great topic!! I've been seeing mass hypnosis since this whole thing started. It's just so... weird.
Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023Liked by Mark Bisone
I remember in 2015, Scott Adams was writing largely about hypnosis, persuasion, and how the left and right have different movies playing in their heads. (Thus, they interpret the same facts differently.)
Adams then gave serious credibility to Trump. Not endorsing him, but understanding his appeal through those same lenses. This played a role for me personally in taking Trump seriously as a plausible candidate.
Then, Adams went along with the whole Covid and vaccine mirage.
And now, of course, he finally got kicked to the curb.
It's all just a datapoint, something that seemed worth sharing. I guess my point is: that a national figure, and expert on persuasion and hypnosis, who was skilled and persuasive enough himself to help to bring Trump forward as a viable candidate; he got sucked in to the Covid mirage.
It might also be true the 25% there toward the end still hypnotized about boosters are society's core authoritarians.
My go-to for understanding how this hypnotic propaganda works if John Michael Greer's The King in Orange. That is a clear study on how, with the introduction of Trump on the political scene, with the incessant Russia Russia Russia and racist/bigot/xenophobe/misogynist talk primed much of America for "safe and effective," and "pandemic of the unvaccinated." It is also about class, and in this sense too, the most susceptible to this hypnotism are the leading edge of evolution, professional managerial class.
The "pandemic" was also an effective way of isolating those who are not susceptible to hypnotism, who are and will be the targets for weeding out from the Globohomo American Empire. Expect the next fake pandemic to come right around the time they are ready to introduce a CBDC.
Apr 5, 2023·edited Apr 5, 2023Liked by Mark Bisone
An excellent analysis, in my opinion, and it at least hints at something; however, as a single point of anecdotal reference, I will remark that I am in the 75% who can be hypnotized -- I used to perform it on myself, as an aid to sleep, and have had it performed by others on me a couple of times -- but in the 25% or so who have not had a jab. Regardless, though, I would not be surprised if something at least adjacent to mass suggestion played a role of some kind in the whole phenomenon.
Regarding the covid mass-hypnosis, I think the one factor that explains inducibility is some baseline awareness of or sensitivity to the "language of making" for lack of a better phrase.
In March 2020 I was swept up in the anxiety. By late April I started to become aware that something was amiss (I can remember the evening when I was reading/posting on social media and it suddenly became crystal clear that there were people actively manipulating the discourse). By early summer I could read the occult fingerprints of the operation, all of the symbols that were engineered to create a sense of terror and ultimately compliance. Same as 9/11: back then I was sensitive to the phenomenon but not yet fluent in the language.
There's a reason that people are discouraged from investigating metaphysical phenomena in any real/actionable way.
Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023Liked by Mark Bisone
This was too long for me, I didn't make it to your conclusions. I will have to retry when I have more time and a larger screen. But maybe you could also make your points stick out more? Meaning, structure it even clearer than it surely is structured, no offense meant. I'm a bit vexed because it's very very interesting but also soooo long ...
I disagree with the hypnosis hypothesis. When the bulk of the children of the West were held prisoner in indoctrination facilities for 12+ years, it need not take any extravagant hypothesis to explain mass-compliance. Simple obedience training, built on core human anxieties, is enough to explain it.
There is one point I wish to address: I was in Army Intelligence years ago. I dealt with classified materials daily and was read-on for Top Secret materials, with access to a SCF (secure controlled facility.) At the risk of seeming a bit pedantic, I must point out MK Ultra was an actual Top Secret program, and it had a brief chemically based mind-control experimental sub-program, but the actual MK Ultra was an umbrella program. It was classified TS, true, but it was purely administrative. The sub-programs of MK Ultra were where the actual work was done, not under MK Ultra, which was an administrative and oversight program. To understand the importance of this, know that in an umbrella program, the actual people running the umbrella may (and very likely) not know anything that happens in the sub-programs. Just because you are read-on for TS material does not give you access to anything TS; it's all compartmentalized. This is important because the sub-programs were where experimentation occurred, not in the offices of clerks-with-clearances who handled the paperwork. Also, the sub-program of chemical mind-control was a predictable failure. To say 'who knows what they have now?' is pointless. Clearly, they have programs for manipulating the masses, most of which likely align with mass-marketing strategies. One could likely learn 90% of any current program by reading Joseph Goebbels. Add to that the dopamine strategies employed by social media designers, and there's all the achievable mind control out there. A lot of this stuff is simpler and easier than most people suspect. Look at how quickly the CIA toppled Guatemala's leadership with fake radio broadcasts, or the 1938 Orson Welles's War of the Worlds Broadcast (my paternal grandfather participated in an ad hoc citizen's militia formed to fight the Martians; his group armed themselves with whatever hunting weapons were to hand and barricaded streets.) I respectfully recommend A Short Course In The Secret War by Christopher Felix for a primer on intelligence operations.
My father used to hypnotize my brothers. I watched him get them to do crazy physical feats or perform activities on objects that did not exist (check the puppy for fleas).
I was never hypnotized, nor can I be hypnotized today. However, given that my brothers were hypnotized, not one of them fell for the covid scam. None got jabbed or believed that lockdowns were wise, masks were effective, and that the jabs protected anyone. Obviously, neither did I.
Even I questioned early on, if these are mRNA technology, what is to keep reverse transcriptase from incorporating these into the DNA? I'm no rocket scientist. But, if I could wonder, why did much smarter people than me not do the same?
But for the record, no, I don't think covid was some grand scheme to rule via medical fiat, depopulation, etc. I think it's a colossal fuckup born of too many arrogantly clueless Big Plans (for Big $, to Rule the World, Cure Cancer, whatever) smacking into each other along with their own negative consequences.
Orchestrated coverup? Sure. Major exploitation? Of course. But competent execution of some Grand Scheme? I don't see it. Just a cluster fuck of misguided power nodes going over the top like Nero with a hot fiddle. Wag the dog too much and you find yourself riding a tiger by the tail.
Humans simply can't function sanely in large groups, is my baseline on all this. There is no enemy to fight but oneself, and the Tyler Durden model doesn't appeal to me:
I think that being lashed to the masts of God and freedom helped people pass through the Covid Straits safely.
Also, living someplace with more physical space; the groupthink was less "tight," for lack of a better word. Being in the Bay Area may have been harmful to Scott Adams, for example. I am guessing that the most densely populated parts of the Soviet Union had the most tattlers and spies, for the same reason. What happened in rural Bavaria was probably closer to normal than what happened in Berlin.
So, I'm not in the 25% but, rather, in the mediocre middle of those who went partway down this particular road of perdition but then wised up. Such is life.
What I wonder is whether all you 25%ers on here feel safe from all potential threats of suggestibility, or do you worry about what will slip past your defences in the future? If you don't worry.....should you?
I wonder if I'm now aware enough to avoid my gullibility in the future, or perhaps have the fortitude to resist my fear?
Mark, you're sort of an End Times curious kind of guy (if I've understood some of your other essays)...what about when the Man of Lawlessness shows up?
This is what COVID did for me, it woke me up to my desperately precarious spiritual state. I repented! But it sure was humbling to see just where I stand within the herd.
In order to prevent mass hypnosis/psychosis, IMO it will require arresting and interrogating those responsible for it, removing the means to do so, trying them, & sentencing them.
Then it will entail a top-to-bottom review, dismantlement, and restructuring of every institution that requires subservience and obedience, and then creating institutions that inform, instruct, and educate the populace about such techniques and how to guard against them, at the same time emphasizing critical thinking, logic, identification of fallacies, etc.
However, this will have to wait until the whole sheebang goes tits up in a fiery deep impact explosion.
Woohoo! After quite a while, an opening again to share my beloved wall of text 😊 →→ https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/news-from-cj-hopkins-and-consent-2fd/comment/11451522 👌
In a neutron-star-condensed form ↓↓
🗨 [The majority of folks] do hear your data and proofs. But in order to accept those as truth they must also accept that their docs are liars and their governments are monsters, which means their parents and teachers were wrong, and that science can't be trusted anymore, including those proofs and truths and that this has been going on for a long time.
An elephantine takeaway ↓↓
🗨 So, be kind. Be very grateful that you can see more truth than most.[...] And if you can handle that, be grateful for that as well. And patient and nonjudgemental for those who can't. You, and others like you, are an anomaly in the overall human condition.
Some years back, when contemplating an alternative career, I became interested in various conceptions of personality, and came across Ernest Hartmann's Boundaries in the Mind. He posits that people with "thin" psychological boundaries are more susceptible to vivid imagination, remembering dreams, hypnosis and other mysterious channels of psychic influence. This may correlate to the "openness" aspect of the so-called Big Five personality traits. I scored exceptionally high on both tests and thus thought I would be a good candidate for hypnosis. However, when I tried it - with a genuine belief that it would be effective, the experience fell flat. This post got me thinking of another personality test I took (and validated with others) that might shed some light on the apparent paradox.
Gretchen Rubin (of Happiness Project fame) developed a different framework, which she calls the Four Tendencies. These reflect people's willingness to hold themselves to expectations - both of themselves, and those of others. Obligers, for example, are willing to meet others' expectations, but have a hard time holding themselves accountable to their own goals. Rebels, by contrast, resist the expectations of others and themselves. I scored high in the Rebel category, which represents a small contingent of Americans (I think she said 19% but speculated that was probably overstating things). Rebels' differentiated thinking can lead them to become iconoclasts & entrepreneurs OR outcasts who can barely function in modern society.
Here's where I'm going with this: I think it takes a streak of rebellion to go against the layer cake of propaganda and resulting social conformity...but one must ALSO be able to come up with a plausible alternative hypothesis to anchor one's thinking. Taking a giant leap out of "the world as we knew it" into an alternative framework that better explains reality requires both bravery and imagination.
That leap grows bigger the longer you wait - kind of like a boat leaving the dock. The more ridiculous the mandates, the more the cognitive dissonance grows, and the harder it is to explain "public health" policies in terms of what one knew to be true. Most people double down on "trusting the science" in order to avoid going crazy (or be judged by others as crazy). Not have prepared oneself psychologically through an incremental change in perception makes such a leap excruciating when it does come. The only way to do it is hold hands with others and hope not to drown in the process.
In other words, those who smelled a rat early on - and were possessed of an openness to alternative theories of reality - had an easier time understanding and processing the changes, which cushioned the blow of becoming social outcasts.
Speaking of rats, meet one Richard Day: https://drrichardday.wordpress.com/
Interesting analogy. Hmmmm. Well I have a parent who is a Doctor and who also practiced hypnotism actually. My children are not vaccinated for anything and he has had lots of ‘talks’ with me about this. When Covid hit and the fear amped it was clear I would not get vaccinated. But this is because I have a significant chronic condition and taking a bioweapon (what I thought to be a vaccine) could down turn my little capacity. My specialist said what if you got long Covid on top of your condition which was a horrid thought but for whatever reason I wasn’t budging. My Doctor parent rang and condescended (while trying not to) my decision and amped fear to the degree I rang my adult daughter and tried to enforce it for her. She, like me, wasn’t having it and told me to stick it. What I like about the theory is it makes the decision making process less personal. And it still strikes me as bizarre that so many people cannot see beyond the psy op narrative. My experience is that 65 percent are still hypnotised over here.
You got me on “pandemic enthusiast”. Then "simultaneously hilarious and terrifying." I am one of the 25%. It never caught me and never will. I would say PR companies, such as Hill + Knowlton, and advertizers are master hypnotists and consulted/hired for maximum effect pre- and during the plandemic.
Great topic!! I've been seeing mass hypnosis since this whole thing started. It's just so... weird.
I remember in 2015, Scott Adams was writing largely about hypnosis, persuasion, and how the left and right have different movies playing in their heads. (Thus, they interpret the same facts differently.)
Adams then gave serious credibility to Trump. Not endorsing him, but understanding his appeal through those same lenses. This played a role for me personally in taking Trump seriously as a plausible candidate.
Then, Adams went along with the whole Covid and vaccine mirage.
And now, of course, he finally got kicked to the curb.
It's all just a datapoint, something that seemed worth sharing. I guess my point is: that a national figure, and expert on persuasion and hypnosis, who was skilled and persuasive enough himself to help to bring Trump forward as a viable candidate; he got sucked in to the Covid mirage.
It might also be true the 25% there toward the end still hypnotized about boosters are society's core authoritarians.
My go-to for understanding how this hypnotic propaganda works if John Michael Greer's The King in Orange. That is a clear study on how, with the introduction of Trump on the political scene, with the incessant Russia Russia Russia and racist/bigot/xenophobe/misogynist talk primed much of America for "safe and effective," and "pandemic of the unvaccinated." It is also about class, and in this sense too, the most susceptible to this hypnotism are the leading edge of evolution, professional managerial class.
The "pandemic" was also an effective way of isolating those who are not susceptible to hypnotism, who are and will be the targets for weeding out from the Globohomo American Empire. Expect the next fake pandemic to come right around the time they are ready to introduce a CBDC.
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An excellent analysis, in my opinion, and it at least hints at something; however, as a single point of anecdotal reference, I will remark that I am in the 75% who can be hypnotized -- I used to perform it on myself, as an aid to sleep, and have had it performed by others on me a couple of times -- but in the 25% or so who have not had a jab. Regardless, though, I would not be surprised if something at least adjacent to mass suggestion played a role of some kind in the whole phenomenon.
Regarding the covid mass-hypnosis, I think the one factor that explains inducibility is some baseline awareness of or sensitivity to the "language of making" for lack of a better phrase.
In March 2020 I was swept up in the anxiety. By late April I started to become aware that something was amiss (I can remember the evening when I was reading/posting on social media and it suddenly became crystal clear that there were people actively manipulating the discourse). By early summer I could read the occult fingerprints of the operation, all of the symbols that were engineered to create a sense of terror and ultimately compliance. Same as 9/11: back then I was sensitive to the phenomenon but not yet fluent in the language.
There's a reason that people are discouraged from investigating metaphysical phenomena in any real/actionable way.
This was too long for me, I didn't make it to your conclusions. I will have to retry when I have more time and a larger screen. But maybe you could also make your points stick out more? Meaning, structure it even clearer than it surely is structured, no offense meant. I'm a bit vexed because it's very very interesting but also soooo long ...
I disagree with the hypnosis hypothesis. When the bulk of the children of the West were held prisoner in indoctrination facilities for 12+ years, it need not take any extravagant hypothesis to explain mass-compliance. Simple obedience training, built on core human anxieties, is enough to explain it.
There is one point I wish to address: I was in Army Intelligence years ago. I dealt with classified materials daily and was read-on for Top Secret materials, with access to a SCF (secure controlled facility.) At the risk of seeming a bit pedantic, I must point out MK Ultra was an actual Top Secret program, and it had a brief chemically based mind-control experimental sub-program, but the actual MK Ultra was an umbrella program. It was classified TS, true, but it was purely administrative. The sub-programs of MK Ultra were where the actual work was done, not under MK Ultra, which was an administrative and oversight program. To understand the importance of this, know that in an umbrella program, the actual people running the umbrella may (and very likely) not know anything that happens in the sub-programs. Just because you are read-on for TS material does not give you access to anything TS; it's all compartmentalized. This is important because the sub-programs were where experimentation occurred, not in the offices of clerks-with-clearances who handled the paperwork. Also, the sub-program of chemical mind-control was a predictable failure. To say 'who knows what they have now?' is pointless. Clearly, they have programs for manipulating the masses, most of which likely align with mass-marketing strategies. One could likely learn 90% of any current program by reading Joseph Goebbels. Add to that the dopamine strategies employed by social media designers, and there's all the achievable mind control out there. A lot of this stuff is simpler and easier than most people suspect. Look at how quickly the CIA toppled Guatemala's leadership with fake radio broadcasts, or the 1938 Orson Welles's War of the Worlds Broadcast (my paternal grandfather participated in an ad hoc citizen's militia formed to fight the Martians; his group armed themselves with whatever hunting weapons were to hand and barricaded streets.) I respectfully recommend A Short Course In The Secret War by Christopher Felix for a primer on intelligence operations.
My father used to hypnotize my brothers. I watched him get them to do crazy physical feats or perform activities on objects that did not exist (check the puppy for fleas).
I was never hypnotized, nor can I be hypnotized today. However, given that my brothers were hypnotized, not one of them fell for the covid scam. None got jabbed or believed that lockdowns were wise, masks were effective, and that the jabs protected anyone. Obviously, neither did I.
Even I questioned early on, if these are mRNA technology, what is to keep reverse transcriptase from incorporating these into the DNA? I'm no rocket scientist. But, if I could wonder, why did much smarter people than me not do the same?
But for the record, no, I don't think covid was some grand scheme to rule via medical fiat, depopulation, etc. I think it's a colossal fuckup born of too many arrogantly clueless Big Plans (for Big $, to Rule the World, Cure Cancer, whatever) smacking into each other along with their own negative consequences.
Orchestrated coverup? Sure. Major exploitation? Of course. But competent execution of some Grand Scheme? I don't see it. Just a cluster fuck of misguided power nodes going over the top like Nero with a hot fiddle. Wag the dog too much and you find yourself riding a tiger by the tail.
Humans simply can't function sanely in large groups, is my baseline on all this. There is no enemy to fight but oneself, and the Tyler Durden model doesn't appeal to me:
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So I don't focus on fighting the Enemy, but rather, on befriending my immediate fellows.