Having listened to Elon Musk on Lex Fridman's and Joe Rogan's podcasts, I'm inclined toward dull as dishwater.
That said, I too would appreciate it if he would open up to the idea that the point of human life on earth is to be human, as opposed to cyborgs controlled by a matrix.
You do know, don't you, that Musk's maternal grandfather, Canadian Joshua Haldeman, was a great believer in technocracy - until something happened and he wasn't. Maybe history could repeat itself? I also never was impressed by the guy, especially after he married Grimes.
Thank you, Mark. Great analysis and interesting musings!
I'm not much of a tech nerd, but my first impression of EM was to be thoroughly unimpressed. And by that I mean, I was and still am non-plussed about his supposed deep knowledge of technology. I don't buy it.
What *does* impress me is his ease on camera and his far-too-graceful way with words, even in the most awkward of situations.
What *also* impresses me is his decision to "marry" a Hollywood music star, Grimes. Now, "marry" is a deep word, with connections to the sea ("mar") that are complexified (yeah, I make up words sometimes) by the fact that the CONs see us as "birthed" but "lost at sea" and thus we are CONsidered DEAD! Unknowingly, our mothers are deceived into signing us over into slavery via the "birth" certificate. It's a linguistic/textual deception of mammoth proportions perpetrated for far more than a century. But you probably know all that. Aaaaand, I digress.
What I'm trying to get at — in my own bizarre way — is that I think EM married (wait, no, in Hellyweird, they never *really* marry, it's all for the ruse) Grimes *while* he was her MK-ULTRA programmer, and then became her handler and usurper. He used Grimes as a tool of artificial elevation AND as a womb to bear offspring for the further use of the CONs. And look-a-here! They are (were) both in the "public eye" all the time . . . . Quelle surprise! [Not.]
Think of the name Grimes. It quite purposefully rhymes with, and sounds very similar to, the word "crimes," and it loosely means "multiple filths." Eww.
Here is what I saw of Grimes earlier in 2022, before I even knew about her or her relationship with EM. (This is very disturbing, even for those of us who have seen and especially those of us who experienced MK-ULTRA trauma-based mind control.):
EM is a handler/programmer for the CONs. His bizarre demeanor and inexplicable "knowledge" are part of HIS programming. He is made to seem "dull as dishwater" in order to appeal to techies and everyday folks who would otherwise be put off by someone speaking eloquently and passionately, like Frederick Douglass. Hence, viewers who are already programmed into the excitement of "future-tripping" as a way to escape their moral obligation to self, to others, and to Mother Earth are loving EM and his baby-momma, Grimes. (Baby? Or....?)
Hollywood, Big Sports, Big Tech, Big Pharma & Medicine, Big Religion, Big Ag, Big Ed, and the CIA/military are in bed (and I mean that literally as well as figuratively). Anyone who cannot see that is actively CHOOSING TO NOT SEE THAT.
(Sorry for shouting. These comment platforms SUCK at helping us to express in text what we truly feel.)
Yes, I find it hard to read Musk too - I think this is part of his Asperger's - mask like face and lack of prosody of voice - what we call weak Vagal Tone. This does distinguish him from psychopaths who are very good at pretending and sending the right social signals. But I would suggest that someone with his kind of nervous system dysregulation is not well suited to a powerful leadership position, because of the lack of pro-social motivations. (ps the comments have been turned off on our latest post, not sure if this was on purpose?)
According to the likes of Dr Stephen Porges, autistic spectrum folks and aspergers like neurodivergence folks have a lot of symptoms due to being stuck in fight, flight, freeze responses. They find it very difficult to self-regulate (calm themselves) and a hypersensitive to external stimulus, connected to having weak vagus nerve function, which as well as having the principle anti-inflammation, calming role in the body, also has the role in pro-social, and social engagement. Strengthening of the vagus nerve can be significantly beneficial and allow greater social functioning. Musk's flat affect (unreadable face), and lack of melody in his voice are classic signs of vagus dysregulation (we see it in Parkinson's for example), and this goes hand-in-hand with not being able to read other people's faces and tone of voice too.
Thanks. I suppose that could explain a lot about his public persona, at the very least. However, I'm not sure it let's me peek in the part of the box that tells me whether he's evil or not.
I think it tells us his antics are highly impulsive and probably not pre-meditated, and why he seems to be different people at different times, basically chaotic. He acts out of instincts rather than playing 4D chess. But I think it tells us he is not a psychopath like some other billionaires we could mention, who are masters of control of their social engagement functions to charm and manipulate others.
Yes, this is precisely why I don't think someone with dysregulation should be in a leadership position, because it makes them a bit like a person who has a right hemisphere stroke in Iain McGilchrist's parlance - disconnected, and seeing living beings as machines and spare parts, because they a not very pro-social in their thinking. I'm not surprised that someone who thinks interfacing people and computers is a good idea, is also not bothered about monkeys. But this is not the same as evil, as per the psychopaths, who will torture the monkeys - or the rest us - just for fun, I also doubt that Musk had much to do with the experiments personally. And I have to wonder if big pharma treats its monkeys any better? So dangerous if left in charge, but not evil?
I get a kick out of how masterfully he deals with those who think they are legends in their own time. And all with a smile. Past that, don't know what to make of him.
Well, maybe. He is the marketing genius of computer nerds.
He lost me when he broke the truck window. He currently plays with his new toy sending out dribs and drabs of Twitter files. He has everyone on the edge of their seats in the media. But the elite aren't afraid. If they can get Kennedy, Musk is an easier target.
Elon is so dumb that he said "we will coup whoever we want" when it came to Bolivia. He's so full of himself like trump, which helps us... He can and will say stupid things, because like trump, Elon is not as smart as he thinks he is.
But because he thinks he's smart, he doesn't follow the script given to him.
Oh and please listen to his past interviews on Mars and other space projects. The guy knows nothing technical... It's like the CEO of Ford motor company not knowing why cars cannot get 300 mpg.
Physics? What's that?
That's why SpaceX is just a continuation of past military contractors
That's why Tesla is just a continuation of what other companies made before them.
Having listened to Elon Musk on Lex Fridman's and Joe Rogan's podcasts, I'm inclined toward dull as dishwater.
That said, I too would appreciate it if he would open up to the idea that the point of human life on earth is to be human, as opposed to cyborgs controlled by a matrix.
Exactly.
You do know, don't you, that Musk's maternal grandfather, Canadian Joshua Haldeman, was a great believer in technocracy - until something happened and he wasn't. Maybe history could repeat itself? I also never was impressed by the guy, especially after he married Grimes.
Thank you, Mark. Great analysis and interesting musings!
I'm not much of a tech nerd, but my first impression of EM was to be thoroughly unimpressed. And by that I mean, I was and still am non-plussed about his supposed deep knowledge of technology. I don't buy it.
What *does* impress me is his ease on camera and his far-too-graceful way with words, even in the most awkward of situations.
What *also* impresses me is his decision to "marry" a Hollywood music star, Grimes. Now, "marry" is a deep word, with connections to the sea ("mar") that are complexified (yeah, I make up words sometimes) by the fact that the CONs see us as "birthed" but "lost at sea" and thus we are CONsidered DEAD! Unknowingly, our mothers are deceived into signing us over into slavery via the "birth" certificate. It's a linguistic/textual deception of mammoth proportions perpetrated for far more than a century. But you probably know all that. Aaaaand, I digress.
What I'm trying to get at — in my own bizarre way — is that I think EM married (wait, no, in Hellyweird, they never *really* marry, it's all for the ruse) Grimes *while* he was her MK-ULTRA programmer, and then became her handler and usurper. He used Grimes as a tool of artificial elevation AND as a womb to bear offspring for the further use of the CONs. And look-a-here! They are (were) both in the "public eye" all the time . . . . Quelle surprise! [Not.]
Think of the name Grimes. It quite purposefully rhymes with, and sounds very similar to, the word "crimes," and it loosely means "multiple filths." Eww.
Here is what I saw of Grimes earlier in 2022, before I even knew about her or her relationship with EM. (This is very disturbing, even for those of us who have seen and especially those of us who experienced MK-ULTRA trauma-based mind control.):
https://vigilantlinks.com/2022/04/grimes-being-tortured-and-forced-to-sing-on-eric-andre-show/
EM is a handler/programmer for the CONs. His bizarre demeanor and inexplicable "knowledge" are part of HIS programming. He is made to seem "dull as dishwater" in order to appeal to techies and everyday folks who would otherwise be put off by someone speaking eloquently and passionately, like Frederick Douglass. Hence, viewers who are already programmed into the excitement of "future-tripping" as a way to escape their moral obligation to self, to others, and to Mother Earth are loving EM and his baby-momma, Grimes. (Baby? Or....?)
Hollywood, Big Sports, Big Tech, Big Pharma & Medicine, Big Religion, Big Ag, Big Ed, and the CIA/military are in bed (and I mean that literally as well as figuratively). Anyone who cannot see that is actively CHOOSING TO NOT SEE THAT.
(Sorry for shouting. These comment platforms SUCK at helping us to express in text what we truly feel.)
Yes, I find it hard to read Musk too - I think this is part of his Asperger's - mask like face and lack of prosody of voice - what we call weak Vagal Tone. This does distinguish him from psychopaths who are very good at pretending and sending the right social signals. But I would suggest that someone with his kind of nervous system dysregulation is not well suited to a powerful leadership position, because of the lack of pro-social motivations. (ps the comments have been turned off on our latest post, not sure if this was on purpose?)
"...someone with his kind of nervous system dysregulation..."
This is interesting. What do you mean by that? I've never heard Musk described that way before.
"(ps the comments have been turned off on our latest post, not sure if this was on purpose?)"
No, that wasn't on purpose. I've just fixed it. Thanks for letting me know.
According to the likes of Dr Stephen Porges, autistic spectrum folks and aspergers like neurodivergence folks have a lot of symptoms due to being stuck in fight, flight, freeze responses. They find it very difficult to self-regulate (calm themselves) and a hypersensitive to external stimulus, connected to having weak vagus nerve function, which as well as having the principle anti-inflammation, calming role in the body, also has the role in pro-social, and social engagement. Strengthening of the vagus nerve can be significantly beneficial and allow greater social functioning. Musk's flat affect (unreadable face), and lack of melody in his voice are classic signs of vagus dysregulation (we see it in Parkinson's for example), and this goes hand-in-hand with not being able to read other people's faces and tone of voice too.
Thanks. I suppose that could explain a lot about his public persona, at the very least. However, I'm not sure it let's me peek in the part of the box that tells me whether he's evil or not.
I think it tells us his antics are highly impulsive and probably not pre-meditated, and why he seems to be different people at different times, basically chaotic. He acts out of instincts rather than playing 4D chess. But I think it tells us he is not a psychopath like some other billionaires we could mention, who are masters of control of their social engagement functions to charm and manipulate others.
Fair enough. But here's a counter-point; Did you see the linked articles about his monkey brain experiments?
Yes, this is precisely why I don't think someone with dysregulation should be in a leadership position, because it makes them a bit like a person who has a right hemisphere stroke in Iain McGilchrist's parlance - disconnected, and seeing living beings as machines and spare parts, because they a not very pro-social in their thinking. I'm not surprised that someone who thinks interfacing people and computers is a good idea, is also not bothered about monkeys. But this is not the same as evil, as per the psychopaths, who will torture the monkeys - or the rest us - just for fun, I also doubt that Musk had much to do with the experiments personally. And I have to wonder if big pharma treats its monkeys any better? So dangerous if left in charge, but not evil?
I get a kick out of how masterfully he deals with those who think they are legends in their own time. And all with a smile. Past that, don't know what to make of him.
Well, maybe. He is the marketing genius of computer nerds.
He lost me when he broke the truck window. He currently plays with his new toy sending out dribs and drabs of Twitter files. He has everyone on the edge of their seats in the media. But the elite aren't afraid. If they can get Kennedy, Musk is an easier target.
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Elon is so dumb that he said "we will coup whoever we want" when it came to Bolivia. He's so full of himself like trump, which helps us... He can and will say stupid things, because like trump, Elon is not as smart as he thinks he is.
But because he thinks he's smart, he doesn't follow the script given to him.
Oh and please listen to his past interviews on Mars and other space projects. The guy knows nothing technical... It's like the CEO of Ford motor company not knowing why cars cannot get 300 mpg.
Physics? What's that?
That's why SpaceX is just a continuation of past military contractors
That's why Tesla is just a continuation of what other companies made before them.
Nothing new invented.