Genuinely one of the hardest pieces ever published on the entirety of this site, in my opinion. I still think about it all time and I've probably sent it to two dozen people since it was first published.
Eustace Mullins wrote a book on the biology of parasites ("The Biological X"), noting that many species of plants and animals have a parasitic sub-species that prey upon the non-parasite versions of their species. Across multiple species, these parasite versions diverge in similar physical and behavioral ways. (Physiognomy is real.) What you see as demonic is simply how we the host-variant view the alien behavior of the parasite-variant.
Mullins indicates that there is one noticeable sub-group that seems to be parasitical as the norm, but I would add that all human races seem to have varying rates of individuals that fit in with this sub-groups behavior.
"What you see as demonic is simply how we the host-variant view the alien behavior of the parasite-variant."
What you see as the alien behavior of the parasite-variant is simply demonic.
Hey look, I can do it too! ;)
But seriously: I don't entirely discount the parasitical model. But it is only a language model; and necessarily an incomplete one, because it doesn't take into account the hard problem of consciousness. That's not to denigrate the model; no reductive scientific model can account for that territory. The best it can do is evaluate and (however imperfectly) predict downstream effects, and there are better and worse methodologies for doing so. The same could be said of the demonic model; both have their strengths and weaknesses, when it comes to describing the phenomena usefully.
My buddy Harrison Koehli at Political Ponerology had a very good post that attempts to integrate both models, if you're curious:
He has been interviewed by many types we identify with as your posts provoke.
I am of the opinion that we can’t hear enough from people that are of our inquisition. We then, and therefore distill a perspective that is close to reality.
My theory: the earth is a living organism and aliens are thought-constructs from a mind so powerful, it manifests them as 'reality.' They exist only in our minds, however, which is why they seem to defy physics. They are imaginings thrust into our minds from our global over-mind.
Consider: thunderheads in a squall line will fire off lightning with the exact pattern our neurons fire. May of the patterns of our own biology, quite sensibly, mimic large scale biological processes of the world around us. What is our living environment comprises one vast organism. What if it 'thinks' and is 'aware?' What would such a mind make of us, living in its guts, and re-ordering the natural world on the scale we have?
What if our global-over mind is trying to talk to us? Trying to reach the part of itself that is changing things?
UFOs, sasquatch, sea monsters, goblins/elves/dwarves, vampires, ghosts, Leonard Nimoy....all manifestations of its imperfect efforts at communication. All touch on our internal myth/archetype wiring. All are untraceable and impossible by our knowledge of physical law. It also touches on why they are so strange: they are a combination of our subconscious being influenced by the over-mind. These encounters carry in them both dread and awe, touch on primal fears and desires, and are as much a reflection of the mind of the one encountering the mind-intrusion anything the mind-intrusions are or do.
Consider if you tried to talk to the biome in your gut...how difficult would that be? How does one talk to a microbe? Try a much higher order of creature...and ant, say. How does one talk to an ant? Magnifying glasses on sunny days are perhaps not the best means to communicate with an ant colony. How would one talk to a tree?
We can barely communicate with cats and dogs, and we are much closer to them than ants or trees.
Our world is one vast living thing. We are part of a biome in its innards. It may not even be 'talking' to us so much as reacting to our presence in what would be, for us, an subconscious way.
It's as good a theory as any, I suppose. How to support it with evidence?
An interesting idea. Reminds me of Sheldrake's morphic fields (which I'm referencing also here, in some indirect ways). I have a few questions.
1) "...thought-constructs from a mind so powerful, it manifests them as 'reality.' They exist only in our minds, however, which is why they seem to defy physics. They are imaginings thrust into our minds from our global over-mind."
If that's the case, what phenomena actually counts as "real", so to speak? In other words, one way to look at reality is as a compilation of sensory data that is persistently synthesized by the observer-mind. That synthesis includes everything I can see, hear, smell and touch. If that is the "right way" to conceive of reality, then there wouldn't necessarily be a partition between "real" and "imaginary". For example, if an over-mind (or maybe *any* mind) could recreate the touch-sensation of a dagger being driven into my heart, I would still be mortally wounded and die from the so-called "imaginary" contact, would I not? Artists have explored this very idea (e.g. Dreamscape, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Neuromancer), so I don't think we're necessarily in novel terrain, even if we're speaking of a participatory hallucination.
2) "Our world is one vast living thing. We are part of a biome in its innards. It may not even be 'talking' to us so much as reacting to our presence in what would be, for us, an subconscious way."
Again, for me this begs the question of category. There is of course a strain of thought that regards consciousness as being an inherent property of every "body" (i.e. including rocks, water, sand, etc). But common sense seems to direct us towards at least a hierarchy of consciousness, that is at least somewhat reliant on structure. A "living" body suggests to me an energetic pattern that sustains its form and functions metabolically, using available resources to maintain coherence over time. That would be a category difference compared to a boulder that does not actively maintain coherence (i.e. if you "wound" a boulder with a hammer, the pattern doesn't attempt to restore the structure).
With these two questions in mind, it seems to me that we might even be wandering into the question of semantics. If a bunch of people observe the same UAP phenomena within the same window of linear spacetime, and describe it the same way, would the ontological question of how "real" it was even matter?
The same goes for UAPs and "non-human" biologics that are supposedly languishing in secret government labs. If those researchers can see, touch, and otherwise sense those objects, by what metric do we determine they are the product of imagination? Moreover, by what metric do we determine that *we* *aren't* the product of imagination?
Good questions. Categories are how we sort things. What are we sorting? A non-testable, repeating phenomenon that takes many apparent forms, leaves little to no evidence, and deeply impacts the emotions of those who encounter this phenomenon.
Where do we put that? The actual physical evidence is scant: a tiny number of photos, records of radar signatures, marks on the ground or dead plants…there’s not much there to analyze.
I suggest the bulk of these encounters exist in the minds of the persons who have the encounter. This is not to say there will be no physical evidence. The primary thrust of this phenomenon is psychic. Physical evidence may take too much energy to create, so the times when physical evidence are rarer. The overmind can make physical alterations to ‘reality’ just as we can. (see the physicist Dr. Dean Radin’s books on the topic of psychic powers.)
I think it’s easier for the overmind to make impressions on video recorders or photographic film than to fully manifest a full disc with occupants. As far as the form of the occupants, WE give them that form, whether they are little greys or sasquatch or ghosts. The forms are dictated from our physical design, from the very ‘machinery’ of our mind.
Also, consider the boulder…in the lifetime and mind of a man, it does not heal, yet the Earth regularly recreates its crust over the longest of long hauls. That boulder, smacked with a hammer, will one day be subsumed back into the crust to be renewed and ‘healed.’
As far as bodies in labs…until we can poke ‘em with a stick, that’s just rumor.
"This is not to say there will be no physical evidence. The primary thrust of this phenomenon is psychic. Physical evidence may take too much energy to create, so the times when physical evidence are rarer."
That's another category problem. After all, photons do not carry mass, but they do carry information are still "physical" by any sensible definition. Therefore, the manifestation of something that can be seen is physical. Sound *does* carry mass and density, which is part of the reason that sound can levitate particulate matter via acoustophoresis.
So, if you see and/or hear something, the phenomenon is by default a physical one absent contrary evidence. We could claim that it's a hallucination/psychic, but the curve bends sharply downward the more witnesses we have with aligned accounts. It bends even more in the direction of "physical" over time (i.e. a sustained hallucination eventually defies its own parameters, because hallucinations are the transitory exception not the rule).
But what I think is interesting about this is how much emphasis is always put on the haptic sense-data of touch, when we're speaking of evidence. Its difference from other sensory information isn't as extreme as we seem to think; like vision, sound, and smell we can recreate and/or experience touch sensations internally (especially when we're asleep, or in some other altered state of awareness). In other words, if you can't touch it, then it isn't "real". You even imply this at the end with "…until we can poke ‘em with a stick, that’s just rumor."
I think the reason we put so much emphasis on that data is because we know, instinctively, that if we can touch something, it can "touch us back", and therefore is capable of physically harming us. Of course, that's true of bright light and loud sound as well, but we don't normally think of it that way, because until quite recently in our development we have been unable to reproduce the degree of light and sound that would damage our bodies. This is no longer the case, but the threat isn't boiled and bred into us the way haptics are (touching the hot stoves, falling down and skinning our knees, etc).
"I think it’s easier for the overmind to make impressions on video recorders or photographic film than to fully manifest a full disc with occupants."
I agree that if your thesis is accurate, it would require significantly less energy to "touch" these mediums. But touch -- physical contact -- is still the operative method. Which again leads us away from a purely internal/psychic phenomenon into the objective world of "the real" (so to speak). And of course all this leaves aside the question of whether what we determine to be real versus unreal is stable and testable at all, or is rather just another way of saying "sensory nexus".
I posit that's where faith, intuition and common sense come into play. And not a moment too soon, considering the ever more mediated and virtual worlds that global networks are foisting upon us. The question of real/unreal is ultimately what helped me break ChatGPT, back in the day, because it isn't a question that can be answered in a purely procedural way.
The point I was trying to make about ‘poking with a stick’ is that WE do not have the bodies. The inevitable ‘they’ have the bodies and aren’t taking them on tour for two bits a gander at ‘em. Without those bodies, all we have are stories, or as we called in my days in Army Intelligence: Rumor Intel, shorted to RUMINT.
I acknowledge the physical in my remarks about recording them on film and video. I am aiming at the lowest energy necessary; photons are easier to produce or push around that to make impressions in the dirt or snap off tree limbs. Consider that we all demonstrate some level of psychic ability, as proven by Radin. The ability is very small…one generally doesn’t get full blown visions of things/events, one gets an inkling, a tiny bit of information. If the planetary overmind works in a similar fashion, only scaled up in proportion sizewise, then it’s bits of information are suitably scaled up…but still only bits of information. Our brains, it seems, are built to keep out most of this kind of information.
The UFO/UAP thing is at the nexus of what is real outside our heads and what is real inside our heads. The reported missing time fits into this. If it is mostly inside our heads, if we are having a ‘waking dream’ pushed in from outside, it necessitates turning on our ‘dream mode.’ Dreams are as real as we are. Hallucinations I would categorize elsewhare, a phenomenon of the brain being affected badly by drugs/damage/excessive emotional stress/etc.
The intrusion of overmind into our minds would be as real to us as anything inside our heads PLUS some external reality. The two, as you rightly point out, really only exist in our heads.
The bias toward a physical object or physically altered part of the world is understandable in that it is not a transitory thing. Leave it, come back, it’s still there. If you heard a sound but did not record it, what can you show? Come back to where you heard the sound and it’s not there to be heard by others. Ditto transitory visual phenomenon; return to the dark hall where you saw the ghost, but there’s now no ghost for others to view.
With recording devices in our pockets, one would expect someone somewhere at some time to have recorded the sounds of a UFO. Even just the rush of wind of their passing. They are almost universally reported as moving totally silently. Alas, I would they made that wonderful puttering noise a la the Jetson’s flying car… Or at least a creepy high-pitched whine.
Why would these phenomenon be silent in almost all cases? That’s a good question.
As far as what to categorize where, we are dealing with a most un-categorizeable thing, which is why science balks at it. Non-repeatable, non-testable, un-categorizeable.
In Dean Radin’s work, he describes an adept from an Ashram in India who was able to move a laser beam with his mind. The report of the event is extraordinary. The yogi said he had trouble with it until he realized he had to move it inside his own mind to make it move outside. Radin and his coworkers in the experiment felt a sudden severe disorientation at the moment the beam moved. This is akin to the disorientation reported from many close-encounters. People wandering, dazed, after a brief exposure to a UFO, that sort of thing.
It’s these similarities between reported encounters with UFOs/otherworldly phenomenon, reported psychic experiences, and Radin’s work that draw to me think of the event as a mostly psychic one. But it is not exclusively in the mind just as the yogi bending the beam showed is possible.
Can barely comprehend..needs 4 more readings at least....but ive always wondered...what if the octopus is the alien? The entire thing about fish and denizen of the deep..the maybe Neanderthals were agressors....
What I have to read again..the empereror...heaven is up...are all creatures evil..where does that leave us? Is earth really satans?
The octopus (originally named the "devilfish") certainly is one of the most alien fauna when compared to us, and arguably when compared to all other creatures in the biosphere. Cephalopods in general exhibit such an extreme alienness that it begs the question of what we really mean when we make the distinction between "animal" and "monster." It's a bit of a word game, and mostly maps to how dangerous the creature is to mankind. A large enough squid or octopus would definitely satisfy that requirement.
"heaven is up...are all creatures evil..where does that leave us? Is earth really satans?"
I personally think it leaves us in the middle, on the firmament. Living our lives atop the partition between heaven and hell, with the ability to choose either. We are closer to heaven, though. I think that's the reason we stand up on two legs, for instance. We know where our true home is.
Thanks for that. Makes sense..the ability to choose…and I just a few years ago learned about how smart octopuses are……way smarter than dogs even…but they do have the ability to recognize humans,,,who 8s good/friend or not. Amazing..the intelligence that created the universe..or is the universe.
That was Tree of Woe's quote (and he might in turn have been quoting Vendramini; I'm not sure). But the large eyes/dark sclera part is uncontroversial, and was what interested me.
My mind. It was there a minute ago (actually several hours ago) but now appears to be suffering some version of The Blue Screen.
I’ll live. [And yeah, there are those Intellectuals that will comment / argue to you here, all puffed up with their pious ‘Yeah, but…’ comebacks. I give two shits about them. 95% of them don’t know how to change a fucking flat tire.]
Where was I…
So, three quarters into feeling my way through this tunnel you constructed, Mark, I paused and bumped my subscription to Founding Member. And while doing so, felt extreme shame that I didn’t opt for some higher support level, say, Brotherhood of Mark, or some such.
I marvel at a mind that can weave such an insanely cohesive tapestry as you’ve woven here, Mark. Truly, I marvel. I am a reasonably well, post-graduate-educated, guy, reasonably accomplished, a reasonably independent SOB. If I sequestered myself for 6 months, forsake all lifely duties and interactions, I could not produce 25% of this work. Maybe 12%. In six months dedicated effort.
I honestly do not know if I should encourage you further, for fear that you would ‘break’ something in your future endeavors. In any case, duty and honor require me to acknowledge your product.
Still, this is some heavy shit, dude. Good shit, mind you. But heavy all the same. I would laugh out very loud right now but my sweet bride is fast asleep and she’d surely beat me about the head and shoulders if I woke her with maniacal laughter at this late hour.
So, I’ll end by saying, don’t break anything, Mark. You do not need to prove anything further to any of your faithful. As the late great Chuck Yeager once said, “Maintain an even strain.”
Thanks so much, Rob. I have to admit, I’ve been sort of second guessing myself lately, as far as this strange writing project goes. It’s been a grueling year for us more generally, full of personal and professional chaos and losses.
In fact, strangely enough, I had a serious conversation with my wife just a few hours before you sent this. I mentioned how much time I was putting into this blog lately, and how I was thinking of maybe scaling back or stopping all together so I could focus on getting more freelance work. To her credit, she said, “Don’t you dare!” It’s quite a thing to find people who believe in the value of what you’re doing, even if it seems like red on the cost sheet in the moment.
Long way of saying, I will try not to break anything. Or if so, only things that would be better off broken. But I promise will I strain.
“It’s been a grueling year for us…”; amen brother. Been there, done that, clawed my way out of the intense wreckage and heartache. After many months of observation and thought I came to firmly, firmly believe that the most exquisite gift we can be given in this life, is strife.
It sounds trite to say that hard times [can, maybe] make strong men [and women, and children], but it is absolutely true I believe. The priceless (at least to me) corollary is that strife is therefore—truly—a Gift. Bizarre as that sounds.
My very strong guess is that you and your Dearest Wife already know this.
Brother Mark, I read the whole article. With grief I stipulate that some of the creatures God created have gone 'waaaaaaay off the deep end into the pitch-darkness of disobedience, unbelief and rebellion. Obviously, they've chosen to live degenerate lives.
The same God who gave those creatures their lives is the One Who gave us our lives. We, the whole human race, are created (as God says of us Himself) "in His image and in His likeness." Since Satan planted his evil seeds in the flesh of the first husband and first wife of humanity (Adam & Eve), God's image and likeness in us has little to do with these perishing bodies of atomic flesh. The untouched image-and-likeness of God in us is our consciousness, our souls. Flesh returns to dust. Soul travels.
I do not believe that all the laser-focused power of the greatest human intellects, combined with a trillion-trillion circuit A.I. robot, would be powerful enough to decipher the conundrum of the lightspeed reality in which we now find ourselves. When it comes to THAT kind of "understanding" I DO believe that we are all bozos on this bus. There is too much of it and not enough of us. lol!
P.S. Is there a way I could send you an email? I would like to send you a couple of documents you might find helpful. Thank you for your hard work. ~ Oaf
"God's image and likeness in us has little to do with these perishing bodies of atomic flesh. The untouched image-and-likeness of God in us is our consciousness, our souls. Flesh returns to dust. Soul travels."
I have seen enough evidence to know the truth of this. But beyond knowledge of that simple truth, I'm still just another blind bozo on the bus. The average medieval or ancient schlub would probably think we were crazy to ever think otherwise. "What do you mean you just figured out souls are eternal, Markl? How did you even live one day thinking anything else?"
But, as you say, even direct observation of this truth barely even begins to scratch the surface of the mystery. It has instead pretty much regressed me to a childlike state, on my best days. I like to joke that I'm now stranded in the same kind of boat that Doubting Thomas was:
"Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed. (John 20:29)”
Obviously, he and I aren't at all comparable in what we have seen. But I still understand that a particular blessing will be forever out of reach for people like me, who could not bring themselves to have faith without evidence. That's a consequence of decisions I made, obviously, and I think a compelling reason not to make those kinds of choices.
On the other hand, maybe some of us are just so blind and stupid that we *need* to get clonked over the head with some kind of supernatural frying pan to turn us back in the right direction. Despite the lumps, that is grace too, and so I am grateful.
"P.S. Is there a way I could send you an email? I would like to send you a couple of documents you might find helpful."
Sure thing. If you received this article in your email, you should just be able to reply to it and I should get it.
I too am in the Big Clonk Club. I'm still gettin' it. Bumps, stumps and a measure of anguish every day but ever, ever onward & upward. Like the man said, "Up and further! Out and beyond!" I will organize that email as soon as I click this into "Reply." Keep on rockin' It will be from the Proton email system
Assuming fact:”it” exists. How hard is it to assume nano technology is controlled experiments on humanity? Without a doubt imo. Now I am agreeing and rear view mirroring nay sayers. Progress!
At this point evidence is again conclusive.
Our limited equipment, an electronic microscope sees obvious artifacts of advanced biometrics interacting with the building blocks of life! What is taught is all bullshit, so many frontiers need to be rethought! Biofields for example.
I’ll stop there. I am clueless and defer to Dr Cowan as a real thinker in this reexamination of biology.
We are soooo behind the curve!!!
How in the Fuk can we the people even begin to understand given a massive intelligence deficiency psyop going back to free energy being “killed” for control of humanity via subservient labor/monetary control. And the discussion didn’t even touch this. Hmmm. The gorilla…
I generally agree that many of our tools and methods are broken, or produce evidence that is being broadly misinterpreted. The biggest problem to my mind is repeatedly inverting effect with cause.
At this point for me it becomes a great mystery as I’m a concrete evidence based thinker. Charles certainly has an elongated skull. Did they interbreed? Are these bloodlines “protected”? We’re it/they planted here to infiltrate and steer the course towards the goals we see as transformative towards chattel human property?
What are the odds we are living exactly when the changes are coming to fruition?
The greys are certainly on the table. D Icke has defined them with shape shifting abilities along with multiple personalities and imo simply as Uber narcissistic psychopaths.
All of this brings me back to the Lakota Native American description: The Great Mystery. Ie source, the universe. The Universe is sorting some shit out and we are in the crossfire.
To add another distinct; black goo. Good and bad. The Bushes bought property next to a deposit that came to earth. When the horizon head blew the beaches were quarantined off and it was collected.
Harold obtained samples and it is a live organism. More proof of alien life. Harold tells of direct meditation with Mother Gia.
Ok, getting far out there.
But his message is of a heart based love where all demonic evil has been vacated and the ego stifled so as not circumvent love based thoughts from heart based(chakra) actions.
Interesting for me as my mantra is do no harm. Love is more of a struggle as emotional anger ect come into play. There’s that ego stuff.
Ok I’ve rambled. All fun Sharing with high intelligence.
I certainly eluded your question because I am seeking validation of proof positive.
Thes imo are guarded secrets. Whistle blowers are to be taken as controlled operations unless, hmmm, ???
Makes me think of when I was a kid, I would have vivid dreams where I was underwater and could feel the water being pushed in and out of my lungs as I breathed (similar to gills, maybe?). I've always wondered why I had dreams like that so often. Maybe it's a remnant of ancestry, a memory or just a fluke.
Underwater exploration is more exciting to me than space. Maybe someday.
Makes sense to me. In a certain manner of speaking, all life comes from the ocean. Some of it pushed its way to the surface, to get closer to the heavens. And of that life, some of it stood on two legs, climbed mountains, built towers and airplanes, to get even closer. If we guard against hubris, I think we can see the goodness, beauty and truth in that.
I was big into this topic way back during the Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell days....
But these days I'm confused as to why despite having more and more cameras everywhere with superior zoom and resolution, we still get blurry dots or tic tacs.
BTW, the video released of the jet chasing a "ufo" dot was not flown by military, but by a contractor (intelligence agency). Hmmm, right?
"Daimonic Reality by Patrick Harpur examines UFOs and a wide variety of “paranormal” phenomena from a rather unique angle. Although Harpur never fully defines the daimonic—“the daimonic that can be defined is not the true daimonic,” as Lao-Tse would say—it seems to exist both inside us and outside us. Like the Greek daemon and unlike the Christian demon, it takes both good/healing and bad/terrifying forms, depending on our commitment to rationalistic ego states.
In a sense, the daimonic is like the collective unconscious of Carl Jung, inside us as a part of our total self that the ego wishes to deny, outside us in all the other humans who ever existed and in the dreams, myths, and arts of all the world. But Harpur follows Irish poet (and Golden Dawn alumnus) W. B. Yeats as often as he follows Jung, and traces some of his ideas back to Giordano Bruno and the alchemical/hermetic mystics of the Renaissance. The daimonic is just a bit more personalized and individualized than Jung’s species unconscious.
Harpur’s major thesis is that unless we recognize the daimonic (make friends with it, Jung would say) it takes increasingly malignant and terrifying forms. For instance, the Greys of UFO abduction lore, he says, are deliberately mirroring our ego-centered and “scientistic” age—showing no emotions of the humans they experiment upon, just as the ideal science student feels no emotion and has no concern with the emotions of the animal being tortured in his laboratory."
Despite dealing with many subjects common to conspiracy theories, this book does not quite fit into that category. We are the conspirators, so to speak. We have repressed the most creative part of ourselves and now it is escaping in terrifying forms."
What an amazing thought experiment. Thanks for the ride.
To your comment on the average religious person getting their world view rocked by a real experience with an “alien” race, have a look at a podcast called Blurry Creatures.
They take on phenomena like UFOs, Sasquatch and paranormal activity from a decidedly Christian perspective. They often discuss how ill-equipped the Christian church, and Christians are to deal with these phenomena.
This episode with Tim Alberino is a good example. Enjoy!
Genuinely one of the hardest pieces ever published on the entirety of this site, in my opinion. I still think about it all time and I've probably sent it to two dozen people since it was first published.
Hardest? Do you mean in this sense?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JovA1T98IdU
Hip-hop bluegrass fusion, wonderful, love it!
Eustace Mullins wrote a book on the biology of parasites ("The Biological X"), noting that many species of plants and animals have a parasitic sub-species that prey upon the non-parasite versions of their species. Across multiple species, these parasite versions diverge in similar physical and behavioral ways. (Physiognomy is real.) What you see as demonic is simply how we the host-variant view the alien behavior of the parasite-variant.
Mullins indicates that there is one noticeable sub-group that seems to be parasitical as the norm, but I would add that all human races seem to have varying rates of individuals that fit in with this sub-groups behavior.
"They are demons" is still a useful heuristic.
"What you see as demonic is simply how we the host-variant view the alien behavior of the parasite-variant."
What you see as the alien behavior of the parasite-variant is simply demonic.
Hey look, I can do it too! ;)
But seriously: I don't entirely discount the parasitical model. But it is only a language model; and necessarily an incomplete one, because it doesn't take into account the hard problem of consciousness. That's not to denigrate the model; no reductive scientific model can account for that territory. The best it can do is evaluate and (however imperfectly) predict downstream effects, and there are better and worse methodologies for doing so. The same could be said of the demonic model; both have their strengths and weaknesses, when it comes to describing the phenomena usefully.
My buddy Harrison Koehli at Political Ponerology had a very good post that attempts to integrate both models, if you're curious:
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/supernatural-evil-and-ponerology
Try Harold Vella Kautz
Anything in particular?
https://icic.law/2023/08/12/🇺🇸-two-worlds/
This is interesting. Insights into his genius.
He has been interviewed by many types we identify with as your posts provoke.
I am of the opinion that we can’t hear enough from people that are of our inquisition. We then, and therefore distill a perspective that is close to reality.
Yeeesssssss!
When do we get the next one?
I'm working on it, whenever I can get a chance.
My theory: the earth is a living organism and aliens are thought-constructs from a mind so powerful, it manifests them as 'reality.' They exist only in our minds, however, which is why they seem to defy physics. They are imaginings thrust into our minds from our global over-mind.
Consider: thunderheads in a squall line will fire off lightning with the exact pattern our neurons fire. May of the patterns of our own biology, quite sensibly, mimic large scale biological processes of the world around us. What is our living environment comprises one vast organism. What if it 'thinks' and is 'aware?' What would such a mind make of us, living in its guts, and re-ordering the natural world on the scale we have?
What if our global-over mind is trying to talk to us? Trying to reach the part of itself that is changing things?
UFOs, sasquatch, sea monsters, goblins/elves/dwarves, vampires, ghosts, Leonard Nimoy....all manifestations of its imperfect efforts at communication. All touch on our internal myth/archetype wiring. All are untraceable and impossible by our knowledge of physical law. It also touches on why they are so strange: they are a combination of our subconscious being influenced by the over-mind. These encounters carry in them both dread and awe, touch on primal fears and desires, and are as much a reflection of the mind of the one encountering the mind-intrusion anything the mind-intrusions are or do.
Consider if you tried to talk to the biome in your gut...how difficult would that be? How does one talk to a microbe? Try a much higher order of creature...and ant, say. How does one talk to an ant? Magnifying glasses on sunny days are perhaps not the best means to communicate with an ant colony. How would one talk to a tree?
We can barely communicate with cats and dogs, and we are much closer to them than ants or trees.
Our world is one vast living thing. We are part of a biome in its innards. It may not even be 'talking' to us so much as reacting to our presence in what would be, for us, an subconscious way.
It's as good a theory as any, I suppose. How to support it with evidence?
Aye, there's the rub...
An interesting idea. Reminds me of Sheldrake's morphic fields (which I'm referencing also here, in some indirect ways). I have a few questions.
1) "...thought-constructs from a mind so powerful, it manifests them as 'reality.' They exist only in our minds, however, which is why they seem to defy physics. They are imaginings thrust into our minds from our global over-mind."
If that's the case, what phenomena actually counts as "real", so to speak? In other words, one way to look at reality is as a compilation of sensory data that is persistently synthesized by the observer-mind. That synthesis includes everything I can see, hear, smell and touch. If that is the "right way" to conceive of reality, then there wouldn't necessarily be a partition between "real" and "imaginary". For example, if an over-mind (or maybe *any* mind) could recreate the touch-sensation of a dagger being driven into my heart, I would still be mortally wounded and die from the so-called "imaginary" contact, would I not? Artists have explored this very idea (e.g. Dreamscape, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Neuromancer), so I don't think we're necessarily in novel terrain, even if we're speaking of a participatory hallucination.
2) "Our world is one vast living thing. We are part of a biome in its innards. It may not even be 'talking' to us so much as reacting to our presence in what would be, for us, an subconscious way."
Again, for me this begs the question of category. There is of course a strain of thought that regards consciousness as being an inherent property of every "body" (i.e. including rocks, water, sand, etc). But common sense seems to direct us towards at least a hierarchy of consciousness, that is at least somewhat reliant on structure. A "living" body suggests to me an energetic pattern that sustains its form and functions metabolically, using available resources to maintain coherence over time. That would be a category difference compared to a boulder that does not actively maintain coherence (i.e. if you "wound" a boulder with a hammer, the pattern doesn't attempt to restore the structure).
With these two questions in mind, it seems to me that we might even be wandering into the question of semantics. If a bunch of people observe the same UAP phenomena within the same window of linear spacetime, and describe it the same way, would the ontological question of how "real" it was even matter?
The same goes for UAPs and "non-human" biologics that are supposedly languishing in secret government labs. If those researchers can see, touch, and otherwise sense those objects, by what metric do we determine they are the product of imagination? Moreover, by what metric do we determine that *we* *aren't* the product of imagination?
Good questions. Categories are how we sort things. What are we sorting? A non-testable, repeating phenomenon that takes many apparent forms, leaves little to no evidence, and deeply impacts the emotions of those who encounter this phenomenon.
Where do we put that? The actual physical evidence is scant: a tiny number of photos, records of radar signatures, marks on the ground or dead plants…there’s not much there to analyze.
I suggest the bulk of these encounters exist in the minds of the persons who have the encounter. This is not to say there will be no physical evidence. The primary thrust of this phenomenon is psychic. Physical evidence may take too much energy to create, so the times when physical evidence are rarer. The overmind can make physical alterations to ‘reality’ just as we can. (see the physicist Dr. Dean Radin’s books on the topic of psychic powers.)
I think it’s easier for the overmind to make impressions on video recorders or photographic film than to fully manifest a full disc with occupants. As far as the form of the occupants, WE give them that form, whether they are little greys or sasquatch or ghosts. The forms are dictated from our physical design, from the very ‘machinery’ of our mind.
Also, consider the boulder…in the lifetime and mind of a man, it does not heal, yet the Earth regularly recreates its crust over the longest of long hauls. That boulder, smacked with a hammer, will one day be subsumed back into the crust to be renewed and ‘healed.’
As far as bodies in labs…until we can poke ‘em with a stick, that’s just rumor.
"This is not to say there will be no physical evidence. The primary thrust of this phenomenon is psychic. Physical evidence may take too much energy to create, so the times when physical evidence are rarer."
That's another category problem. After all, photons do not carry mass, but they do carry information are still "physical" by any sensible definition. Therefore, the manifestation of something that can be seen is physical. Sound *does* carry mass and density, which is part of the reason that sound can levitate particulate matter via acoustophoresis.
So, if you see and/or hear something, the phenomenon is by default a physical one absent contrary evidence. We could claim that it's a hallucination/psychic, but the curve bends sharply downward the more witnesses we have with aligned accounts. It bends even more in the direction of "physical" over time (i.e. a sustained hallucination eventually defies its own parameters, because hallucinations are the transitory exception not the rule).
But what I think is interesting about this is how much emphasis is always put on the haptic sense-data of touch, when we're speaking of evidence. Its difference from other sensory information isn't as extreme as we seem to think; like vision, sound, and smell we can recreate and/or experience touch sensations internally (especially when we're asleep, or in some other altered state of awareness). In other words, if you can't touch it, then it isn't "real". You even imply this at the end with "…until we can poke ‘em with a stick, that’s just rumor."
I think the reason we put so much emphasis on that data is because we know, instinctively, that if we can touch something, it can "touch us back", and therefore is capable of physically harming us. Of course, that's true of bright light and loud sound as well, but we don't normally think of it that way, because until quite recently in our development we have been unable to reproduce the degree of light and sound that would damage our bodies. This is no longer the case, but the threat isn't boiled and bred into us the way haptics are (touching the hot stoves, falling down and skinning our knees, etc).
"I think it’s easier for the overmind to make impressions on video recorders or photographic film than to fully manifest a full disc with occupants."
I agree that if your thesis is accurate, it would require significantly less energy to "touch" these mediums. But touch -- physical contact -- is still the operative method. Which again leads us away from a purely internal/psychic phenomenon into the objective world of "the real" (so to speak). And of course all this leaves aside the question of whether what we determine to be real versus unreal is stable and testable at all, or is rather just another way of saying "sensory nexus".
I posit that's where faith, intuition and common sense come into play. And not a moment too soon, considering the ever more mediated and virtual worlds that global networks are foisting upon us. The question of real/unreal is ultimately what helped me break ChatGPT, back in the day, because it isn't a question that can be answered in a purely procedural way.
The point I was trying to make about ‘poking with a stick’ is that WE do not have the bodies. The inevitable ‘they’ have the bodies and aren’t taking them on tour for two bits a gander at ‘em. Without those bodies, all we have are stories, or as we called in my days in Army Intelligence: Rumor Intel, shorted to RUMINT.
I acknowledge the physical in my remarks about recording them on film and video. I am aiming at the lowest energy necessary; photons are easier to produce or push around that to make impressions in the dirt or snap off tree limbs. Consider that we all demonstrate some level of psychic ability, as proven by Radin. The ability is very small…one generally doesn’t get full blown visions of things/events, one gets an inkling, a tiny bit of information. If the planetary overmind works in a similar fashion, only scaled up in proportion sizewise, then it’s bits of information are suitably scaled up…but still only bits of information. Our brains, it seems, are built to keep out most of this kind of information.
The UFO/UAP thing is at the nexus of what is real outside our heads and what is real inside our heads. The reported missing time fits into this. If it is mostly inside our heads, if we are having a ‘waking dream’ pushed in from outside, it necessitates turning on our ‘dream mode.’ Dreams are as real as we are. Hallucinations I would categorize elsewhare, a phenomenon of the brain being affected badly by drugs/damage/excessive emotional stress/etc.
The intrusion of overmind into our minds would be as real to us as anything inside our heads PLUS some external reality. The two, as you rightly point out, really only exist in our heads.
The bias toward a physical object or physically altered part of the world is understandable in that it is not a transitory thing. Leave it, come back, it’s still there. If you heard a sound but did not record it, what can you show? Come back to where you heard the sound and it’s not there to be heard by others. Ditto transitory visual phenomenon; return to the dark hall where you saw the ghost, but there’s now no ghost for others to view.
With recording devices in our pockets, one would expect someone somewhere at some time to have recorded the sounds of a UFO. Even just the rush of wind of their passing. They are almost universally reported as moving totally silently. Alas, I would they made that wonderful puttering noise a la the Jetson’s flying car… Or at least a creepy high-pitched whine.
Why would these phenomenon be silent in almost all cases? That’s a good question.
As far as what to categorize where, we are dealing with a most un-categorizeable thing, which is why science balks at it. Non-repeatable, non-testable, un-categorizeable.
In Dean Radin’s work, he describes an adept from an Ashram in India who was able to move a laser beam with his mind. The report of the event is extraordinary. The yogi said he had trouble with it until he realized he had to move it inside his own mind to make it move outside. Radin and his coworkers in the experiment felt a sudden severe disorientation at the moment the beam moved. This is akin to the disorientation reported from many close-encounters. People wandering, dazed, after a brief exposure to a UFO, that sort of thing.
It’s these similarities between reported encounters with UFOs/otherworldly phenomenon, reported psychic experiences, and Radin’s work that draw to me think of the event as a mostly psychic one. But it is not exclusively in the mind just as the yogi bending the beam showed is possible.
Can barely comprehend..needs 4 more readings at least....but ive always wondered...what if the octopus is the alien? The entire thing about fish and denizen of the deep..the maybe Neanderthals were agressors....
What I have to read again..the empereror...heaven is up...are all creatures evil..where does that leave us? Is earth really satans?
The octopus (originally named the "devilfish") certainly is one of the most alien fauna when compared to us, and arguably when compared to all other creatures in the biosphere. Cephalopods in general exhibit such an extreme alienness that it begs the question of what we really mean when we make the distinction between "animal" and "monster." It's a bit of a word game, and mostly maps to how dangerous the creature is to mankind. A large enough squid or octopus would definitely satisfy that requirement.
"heaven is up...are all creatures evil..where does that leave us? Is earth really satans?"
I personally think it leaves us in the middle, on the firmament. Living our lives atop the partition between heaven and hell, with the ability to choose either. We are closer to heaven, though. I think that's the reason we stand up on two legs, for instance. We know where our true home is.
Thanks for that. Makes sense..the ability to choose…and I just a few years ago learned about how smart octopuses are……way smarter than dogs even…but they do have the ability to recognize humans,,,who 8s good/friend or not. Amazing..the intelligence that created the universe..or is the universe.
"...rhesus monkey and owl monkey all have large eyes with vertically-aligned slit pupils."
Large eyes yes, slit pupils, as far as I can tell, no.
That was Tree of Woe's quote (and he might in turn have been quoting Vendramini; I'm not sure). But the large eyes/dark sclera part is uncontroversial, and was what interested me.
My mind. It was there a minute ago (actually several hours ago) but now appears to be suffering some version of The Blue Screen.
I’ll live. [And yeah, there are those Intellectuals that will comment / argue to you here, all puffed up with their pious ‘Yeah, but…’ comebacks. I give two shits about them. 95% of them don’t know how to change a fucking flat tire.]
Where was I…
So, three quarters into feeling my way through this tunnel you constructed, Mark, I paused and bumped my subscription to Founding Member. And while doing so, felt extreme shame that I didn’t opt for some higher support level, say, Brotherhood of Mark, or some such.
I marvel at a mind that can weave such an insanely cohesive tapestry as you’ve woven here, Mark. Truly, I marvel. I am a reasonably well, post-graduate-educated, guy, reasonably accomplished, a reasonably independent SOB. If I sequestered myself for 6 months, forsake all lifely duties and interactions, I could not produce 25% of this work. Maybe 12%. In six months dedicated effort.
I honestly do not know if I should encourage you further, for fear that you would ‘break’ something in your future endeavors. In any case, duty and honor require me to acknowledge your product.
Still, this is some heavy shit, dude. Good shit, mind you. But heavy all the same. I would laugh out very loud right now but my sweet bride is fast asleep and she’d surely beat me about the head and shoulders if I woke her with maniacal laughter at this late hour.
So, I’ll end by saying, don’t break anything, Mark. You do not need to prove anything further to any of your faithful. As the late great Chuck Yeager once said, “Maintain an even strain.”
We love you, dude.
Thanks so much, Rob. I have to admit, I’ve been sort of second guessing myself lately, as far as this strange writing project goes. It’s been a grueling year for us more generally, full of personal and professional chaos and losses.
In fact, strangely enough, I had a serious conversation with my wife just a few hours before you sent this. I mentioned how much time I was putting into this blog lately, and how I was thinking of maybe scaling back or stopping all together so I could focus on getting more freelance work. To her credit, she said, “Don’t you dare!” It’s quite a thing to find people who believe in the value of what you’re doing, even if it seems like red on the cost sheet in the moment.
Long way of saying, I will try not to break anything. Or if so, only things that would be better off broken. But I promise will I strain.
“It’s been a grueling year for us…”; amen brother. Been there, done that, clawed my way out of the intense wreckage and heartache. After many months of observation and thought I came to firmly, firmly believe that the most exquisite gift we can be given in this life, is strife.
It sounds trite to say that hard times [can, maybe] make strong men [and women, and children], but it is absolutely true I believe. The priceless (at least to me) corollary is that strife is therefore—truly—a Gift. Bizarre as that sounds.
My very strong guess is that you and your Dearest Wife already know this.
Again, Bravo sir, to you and yours.
Brother Mark, I read the whole article. With grief I stipulate that some of the creatures God created have gone 'waaaaaaay off the deep end into the pitch-darkness of disobedience, unbelief and rebellion. Obviously, they've chosen to live degenerate lives.
The same God who gave those creatures their lives is the One Who gave us our lives. We, the whole human race, are created (as God says of us Himself) "in His image and in His likeness." Since Satan planted his evil seeds in the flesh of the first husband and first wife of humanity (Adam & Eve), God's image and likeness in us has little to do with these perishing bodies of atomic flesh. The untouched image-and-likeness of God in us is our consciousness, our souls. Flesh returns to dust. Soul travels.
I do not believe that all the laser-focused power of the greatest human intellects, combined with a trillion-trillion circuit A.I. robot, would be powerful enough to decipher the conundrum of the lightspeed reality in which we now find ourselves. When it comes to THAT kind of "understanding" I DO believe that we are all bozos on this bus. There is too much of it and not enough of us. lol!
P.S. Is there a way I could send you an email? I would like to send you a couple of documents you might find helpful. Thank you for your hard work. ~ Oaf
"God's image and likeness in us has little to do with these perishing bodies of atomic flesh. The untouched image-and-likeness of God in us is our consciousness, our souls. Flesh returns to dust. Soul travels."
I have seen enough evidence to know the truth of this. But beyond knowledge of that simple truth, I'm still just another blind bozo on the bus. The average medieval or ancient schlub would probably think we were crazy to ever think otherwise. "What do you mean you just figured out souls are eternal, Markl? How did you even live one day thinking anything else?"
But, as you say, even direct observation of this truth barely even begins to scratch the surface of the mystery. It has instead pretty much regressed me to a childlike state, on my best days. I like to joke that I'm now stranded in the same kind of boat that Doubting Thomas was:
"Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed. (John 20:29)”
Obviously, he and I aren't at all comparable in what we have seen. But I still understand that a particular blessing will be forever out of reach for people like me, who could not bring themselves to have faith without evidence. That's a consequence of decisions I made, obviously, and I think a compelling reason not to make those kinds of choices.
On the other hand, maybe some of us are just so blind and stupid that we *need* to get clonked over the head with some kind of supernatural frying pan to turn us back in the right direction. Despite the lumps, that is grace too, and so I am grateful.
"P.S. Is there a way I could send you an email? I would like to send you a couple of documents you might find helpful."
Sure thing. If you received this article in your email, you should just be able to reply to it and I should get it.
I too am in the Big Clonk Club. I'm still gettin' it. Bumps, stumps and a measure of anguish every day but ever, ever onward & upward. Like the man said, "Up and further! Out and beyond!" I will organize that email as soon as I click this into "Reply." Keep on rockin' It will be from the Proton email system
Assuming fact:”it” exists. How hard is it to assume nano technology is controlled experiments on humanity? Without a doubt imo. Now I am agreeing and rear view mirroring nay sayers. Progress!
At this point evidence is again conclusive.
Our limited equipment, an electronic microscope sees obvious artifacts of advanced biometrics interacting with the building blocks of life! What is taught is all bullshit, so many frontiers need to be rethought! Biofields for example.
I’ll stop there. I am clueless and defer to Dr Cowan as a real thinker in this reexamination of biology.
We are soooo behind the curve!!!
How in the Fuk can we the people even begin to understand given a massive intelligence deficiency psyop going back to free energy being “killed” for control of humanity via subservient labor/monetary control. And the discussion didn’t even touch this. Hmmm. The gorilla…
By "it" do you mean the Greys?
I generally agree that many of our tools and methods are broken, or produce evidence that is being broadly misinterpreted. The biggest problem to my mind is repeatedly inverting effect with cause.
Reference as biblically said, the Elohim.
At this point for me it becomes a great mystery as I’m a concrete evidence based thinker. Charles certainly has an elongated skull. Did they interbreed? Are these bloodlines “protected”? We’re it/they planted here to infiltrate and steer the course towards the goals we see as transformative towards chattel human property?
What are the odds we are living exactly when the changes are coming to fruition?
The greys are certainly on the table. D Icke has defined them with shape shifting abilities along with multiple personalities and imo simply as Uber narcissistic psychopaths.
All of this brings me back to the Lakota Native American description: The Great Mystery. Ie source, the universe. The Universe is sorting some shit out and we are in the crossfire.
To add another distinct; black goo. Good and bad. The Bushes bought property next to a deposit that came to earth. When the horizon head blew the beaches were quarantined off and it was collected.
Harold obtained samples and it is a live organism. More proof of alien life. Harold tells of direct meditation with Mother Gia.
Ok, getting far out there.
But his message is of a heart based love where all demonic evil has been vacated and the ego stifled so as not circumvent love based thoughts from heart based(chakra) actions.
Interesting for me as my mantra is do no harm. Love is more of a struggle as emotional anger ect come into play. There’s that ego stuff.
Ok I’ve rambled. All fun Sharing with high intelligence.
I certainly eluded your question because I am seeking validation of proof positive.
Thes imo are guarded secrets. Whistle blowers are to be taken as controlled operations unless, hmmm, ???
Take care and keep it coming! Profess!
Easyier to
This theory still blows my mind.
Makes me think of when I was a kid, I would have vivid dreams where I was underwater and could feel the water being pushed in and out of my lungs as I breathed (similar to gills, maybe?). I've always wondered why I had dreams like that so often. Maybe it's a remnant of ancestry, a memory or just a fluke.
Underwater exploration is more exciting to me than space. Maybe someday.
Makes sense to me. In a certain manner of speaking, all life comes from the ocean. Some of it pushed its way to the surface, to get closer to the heavens. And of that life, some of it stood on two legs, climbed mountains, built towers and airplanes, to get even closer. If we guard against hubris, I think we can see the goodness, beauty and truth in that.
So much to ponder over here. Another article that will ruminate for days!
You might like the Belief Hole podcast. Thank you for these articles. They are always a pleasure to read and ponder.
Thanks, Angela. I will check it out.
Free Bird!
“alien conquistadors”
ironic
I was big into this topic way back during the Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell days....
But these days I'm confused as to why despite having more and more cameras everywhere with superior zoom and resolution, we still get blurry dots or tic tacs.
BTW, the video released of the jet chasing a "ufo" dot was not flown by military, but by a contractor (intelligence agency). Hmmm, right?
https://library.lol/main/F0FFF93E5BDCCCD182B46BCC074E05BB
"Daimonic Reality by Patrick Harpur examines UFOs and a wide variety of “paranormal” phenomena from a rather unique angle. Although Harpur never fully defines the daimonic—“the daimonic that can be defined is not the true daimonic,” as Lao-Tse would say—it seems to exist both inside us and outside us. Like the Greek daemon and unlike the Christian demon, it takes both good/healing and bad/terrifying forms, depending on our commitment to rationalistic ego states.
In a sense, the daimonic is like the collective unconscious of Carl Jung, inside us as a part of our total self that the ego wishes to deny, outside us in all the other humans who ever existed and in the dreams, myths, and arts of all the world. But Harpur follows Irish poet (and Golden Dawn alumnus) W. B. Yeats as often as he follows Jung, and traces some of his ideas back to Giordano Bruno and the alchemical/hermetic mystics of the Renaissance. The daimonic is just a bit more personalized and individualized than Jung’s species unconscious.
Harpur’s major thesis is that unless we recognize the daimonic (make friends with it, Jung would say) it takes increasingly malignant and terrifying forms. For instance, the Greys of UFO abduction lore, he says, are deliberately mirroring our ego-centered and “scientistic” age—showing no emotions of the humans they experiment upon, just as the ideal science student feels no emotion and has no concern with the emotions of the animal being tortured in his laboratory."
Despite dealing with many subjects common to conspiracy theories, this book does not quite fit into that category. We are the conspirators, so to speak. We have repressed the most creative part of ourselves and now it is escaping in terrifying forms."
What an amazing thought experiment. Thanks for the ride.
To your comment on the average religious person getting their world view rocked by a real experience with an “alien” race, have a look at a podcast called Blurry Creatures.
They take on phenomena like UFOs, Sasquatch and paranormal activity from a decidedly Christian perspective. They often discuss how ill-equipped the Christian church, and Christians are to deal with these phenomena.
This episode with Tim Alberino is a good example. Enjoy!
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6WR9ijWyFqpYqzpNZ8gJ3l?si=stUZQXCqQqWQfVquTFNpsA